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There's a few number of people who are having an identity crunch - people who strategize, wireframe, and design a product simply has no ways to lawmaking (although knows how to code) - what do you call their position? Does that position really exist in companies or in your working environment?

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  • Sabih MirSabih Mir, 8 years agone

    Historically, from the late 1990s to about 2007, this part was called Information Architect. Still effectually in some places, just nigh people transitioned into UX roles at that indicate as that term UX came into mode. Information technology'south also why "UX Designer" runs such a wide spectrum of skills and talents.

    • Emily SaforrianEmily Saforrian, 8 years agone

      Sabih,

      I'd be curious to hear how things are done at Ginger.io. I was just checking out the product and noticed that yous have a "forward-deployed programmer". Does that person get in with a UX Designer?

      Thanks!

      • Sabih MirSabih Mir, eight years ago

        Hey Matthew - cheers for looking. Our titles here are kind of odd; for that specific office, the idea was that "forward" deployed meant someone who was more client-facing. Our product team hither is pretty tightly integrated, and pattern-oriented. Everyone is responsible for the UX in their ain manner. :)

        Hope that helps. Feel free to electronic mail me if you lot accept any other questions! sabih @ ginger.io

  • Matt Pinheiro, 8 years ago

    Dude, Designer. People that pattern stuff are designers.

    They can exist involved in various parts of the procedure, only in some, only in one. But they are still designers.

    In my instance, I practice only Data Architecture and Interaction Pattern, not touching Visual Pattern. I work for a massive company that take dedicated designers for things like icons and use a very strict visual style guide. And I still call myself a designer.

    • Pierre de MillyPierre de Milly, 8 years agone (edited eight years ago )

      Only does anyone empathize what you mean when you lot introduce yourself and what you practice at a dinner/political party?

      I find myself having to explicate to every person I meet that, No, I don't have to blueprint clothes and chairs to be a designer.

      • Matt Pinheiro, 8 years ago

        Oh yes, that happens. I think my mom still don't know for certain what I do for a living.

        I try to explicate it roughly like: "I decide how the stuff you use on your computer will expect and behave". I don't know if people sympathize, but they usually stop request.

    • David Ong, 8 years ago

      let me correct my statement: they don't design. they prepare the layout for the designers.

      • Nick HNick H, 8 years agone

        your topic description reads otherwise, which is making this very confusing.

      • Nick WNick W, 8 years agone

        It sounds like you lot have a very narrow view of blueprint?

        What you've described are responsibilities of a typical UX Designer, Information Builder or Interaction Designer (there's a whole separate discussion to exist had about the proliferation of job titles in the industry. They tend to mean one thing and in practice mean some other)

        As a rough analogy, an architect for a building draws blueprints, designs and oversees the structure of a edifice. This designer doesn't actually construct the building. 'do it all'

  • George PapadakisGeorge Papadakis, eight years ago

    Such identity crunch are (at times) born non out of option but out of need.

    The smaller the schema and the more the overlapping the easier for such hybrid roles to emerge.

    ps: Such roles totally exist on my working environs.

    • David OngDavid Ong, 8 years ago

      That is such a valid bespeak and thank you for reaffirming that my environment is not totally lonely lol

  • Alec MolloyAlec Molloy, 8 years ago

    People who went to fine art school and now piece of work for a software company.

    (if anyone on my team is reading this i still dearest you guys, a little javascript would do you good though)

  • Tom OakleyTom Oakley, viii years agone

    At my old chore where I was a Inferior Web Developer, they'd have been called Producers. Set upward the layout and basic design for a designer to add together web elements and stuff.

    • Sam SolomonSam Solomon, viii years agone (edited 8 years ago )

      I can confirm. I'grand an interactive producer, and this is a portion of what I do. However, the final product is my responsibility.

  • Jonathan YapJonathan Yap, 8 years ago

    My company calls them Principle UI Designer. Stops at wireframe and pass information technology over to me, a Mobile UX Designer just I work in a wider spectrum along side Master UI Designer and other Interaction Designer from planning to visual and sometimes lawmaking. :S

    I had the aforementioned identity crunch initially as well, but I got passed it when I don't retrieve about the title. On visitor record, my job code is I'm a software engineer.

    • David OngDavid Ong, 8 years ago

      Sorry, person stops at designing the layout rather, doesn't proceed to photoshopping or creating assets for lawmaking.

      • Johannes IppenJohannes Ippen, eight years ago (edited 8 years ago )

        Designer = planning construction & layout

        Graphic Designer/Artist = visualizing construction & layout

        • Raphael LoderRaphael Loder, viii years ago

          This.

          I thought it was widely accustomed present, that design isn't solely near the aesthetics of something. I'yard working with a colleague as freelancer for an mobile app company and our function is to 'design' the product. We build the screens with wireframes (heavily using Lean UX methods) together with the product manager, developer and visual designer. We specify what the information architecture has to look similar, what the transitions and interactions are, and what it's going to wait similar (roughly). Once we accomplish a point anybody's happy we hand our concepts to the visual designer, he creates the mockups/screen designs and the avails and the developers can do their work.

          Never touched Photoshop and yet nosotros are designer.

            • Raphael LoderRaphael Loder, eight years ago

              Yes, UX designer would fit. I completely forgot about things similar User research or Usability testing, as they are standard.

              Information Architecture – since we are on a smaller scale we also blueprint the IA, but there could potentially someone else taking care of this specifically (also as office of a UX team), if at that place was a project that big.

  • Louis-André LabadieLouis-André Labadie, 8 years agone (edited 8 years ago )

    Extremely late, but: I believe most of these responsibilities are grouped under "Architecture". Information architecture should piece of work for this.

    The web is both part and information, so we're running a scrap on an antiquated term hither. Withal, information architecture is probably the closest convention for what you're describing.

  • David OngDavid Ong, 8 years ago (edited 8 years ago )

    Give thanks yous guys for making this conversation a lot more interesting. In my company, nosotros were called interaction designers because being a UX designer meant more responsibilities inside the different stages of a product, like a production managing director.

    Every bit interaction designers, nosotros were the next step later the strategists and right before the visual interface designers - we worked on wireframes, userflows, user stories all based on the strategists' objectives.

    But thanks to some large wigs from a digital advertising agency who took over our department, they took out UX or interaction pattern for the simple reason that they believe information technology should be embedded on art directors. And then at present, I'm being positioned as a strategist, moved a footstep farther from planning of the design.

  • Beth DeanBeth Dean, 8 years ago (edited 8 years ago )

    A lot of larger organizations silo design this way. I worked in multiple large orgs where the preliminary work was done by someone either called an Interaction Designer or UX Designer, which was and then passed off to a Visual Designer or UI Designer before code. The disconnect of working that way was often frustrating, but you'll see it frequently in companies that haven't experienced rapid growth and are more 5 years old. This is how we worked at Progressive, as well equally Hotwire / Expedia and American Greetings.

    In smaller organizations it can make sense to intermission work apart this way if there is a Creative Director with a strong understanding of UX work, who does the heavy interaction lifting of forepart-loading all the projects, and then works closely with a Visual Designer on the final execution.

  • Ari ZilnikAri Zilnik, 8 years ago

    UX Designer/Production Designer/Interaction Designer/Information Architect.

    Whatever of those work.

  • Pierre de MillyPierre de Milly, viii years agone (edited 8 years ago )

    Every bit others take said, that would exist an Interaction Designer or UI Designer.

    Nonetheless, in the same mode that good Product Designers have a very potent knowledge of industrial processes and techniques, a expert UI Designer needs to know about visual pattern and fifty-fifty evolution, if but a little. That'southward probably why in some environs, they end up taking care of these dissimilar part of the product development. I don't think that information technology'due south bad. It'south but a affair of the size of the product and the fourth dimension allowed for development. I think that small products benefit from having fewer people working on them and designers taking care of Interaction, UI and Visual Pattern (even product sometime).

    If yous're designing the next iPhone, of course, that'southward more complicated :p

  • Courtney MarkhamCourtney Markham, 8 years ago

    Information Builder or Interaction Designer would exist my suggestions..I am a User Experience Designer and I practise the IA, Interaction, Design but no code.

  • Matt BaxterMatt Baxter, 8 years ago

    Sounds like "Interaction Designer" to me. While nearly of our designers have the title of "UX Designer", at that place are some who practice just focus on interactions and wireframes and finish earlier any visual design.

  • Ryan Hicks, 8 years ago (edited 8 years ago )

    They prepare the layout, simply don't design... so wireframes? That's a UX Designer or an Experience or Interaction Designer.